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>> not at all. david: liz: thank you very much. neil hennessey of the hennessey funds. all major indices ending day higher. here comes nike. strap on your sneakers. david and melissa pick it up here for "after the bell." melissa: stocks climbing into the close. major averages ending in the green, snapping two-day losing streak as liz just said. david: i'm david asman. this is "after the bell." we have you covered on big market movers. here is what we have for you this hour. hillary clinton and donald trump back on the campaign trail, hitting key battle ground states after battling each other after last night's debate. of course both sides are claiming victory. what else would you expect? who came out on top on key issues of crime, taxes, trade, terror? among our guests, ari fleischer, congressman marcia blackburn, libertarian nominee, gary johnson and lieutenant colonel
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oliver north. wow, we have it covered. melissa: dow ending the stay up 130 points. oil and gold not faring as well. phil flynn of the price futures group is a fox business contributor. he has got the story for us from the cme. lori rothman on the floor of the new york stock exchange. lori, to you first, tech leading the charge. reporter: leading industry group on the market and the s&p 500. let's look at some outstanding tech performers today. hey, another record close for amazon. make that 19 record closes now for the online retail giant. shares up better than 2%. helping matters, jpmorgan increasing price target to $11,000 a share. yeah, you heard right -- $1000. there is room to run according to jpmorgan. look at yahoo! today. couple democratic senators saying unacceptable delay for yahoo! to not tell consumers in the marketplace, customers about
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that hack affecting 500 million user accounts. they're looking for marissa mayer to come up with answers of course. last couple days you see shares have been coming up after selling before that. one industry not participating in the rally today, car rental companies. look at that, avis, down 8%. these guys got rushed a representative from avis himself says he does expect european demand for rental cars to weaken here in the short term. back to you. melissa: lori rothman thank you very much. phil, we're seeing big turn around in oil ending down 3%. talk to me. >> we are down obviously. concerns about this algeria meeting. are we going to get a deal, are we not going to get a deal? actually we are off the lows the looks like we're close to some kind of agreement. we don't know what it is and don't think it will happen this week. saudi oil minister ali is making a lot of comments as he landed
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in algiers that saying sides are getting very, very close. they might not get it done but they will have a meeting with russia in october. they will set the stage possible deal for a freeze at next opec meeting in november. trying to talk up the markets but still looks like a bad situation. look at gold today, traders calling gold the trump dump. they sold off pretty hard on the gold today on concerns that the debate didn't go well. obviously it affected a lot of markets. if janet yellen will be around, maybe a little more dovish if hillary clinton becomes president. back to you. melissa: interesting. phil, thank you for that. dave. david: i love how the market makes snap judgments about the election. the dow is marching higher for whatever reason following first presidential debate. donald trump has a warning for wall street. take heed. >> we are in a big fat, ugly bubble and we better be awfully careful. when they raise interest rates, you will see some very bad things happen because the fed is not doing their job.
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the fed is being more political than secretary clinton. david: let's bring in today's panel. dan henninger, "wall street journal" joins us and brenda duke, center for american progress. dan, i happen to agree with donald trump. i think we are in a bubble. we have a number of bubbles in our economy, particularly in the marketplace, but, will fed talk work with voters? that is a tough sell. >> well, i don't know. donald trump saying that the fed is more political than hillary clinton is quite a statement. i think it is undoubtedly false that janet yellen is political but look, i think the fed has nobody but itself to blame. it has kept interest rates this low for nearly eight years. david: yes. >> when you're heading into election period, it almost is reasonable or expecting that people will say they're holding rates down to reelect hillary clinton. i think fed should have raised those rates a long time ago, tried to get us into a soft landing, but, now we're in the
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situation we're in. people like trump are going to think janet yellen is basically a politician. david: savers out there know how this is hurting them. it is hurting savers all over, particularly retirees. last time the fed raised rates one quarter of a percentage point, last time we had a 10% decline in the market. that's probably going to happen again. won't that be of a concern to voters? >> i think the real concern to voters is if the fed doesn't keep interest rates low. inflation is well below 2%. it is staying below 2%. markets expect inflation to stay below 2% next few years. david: brendan, what about savers being crushed by 0% interest on their savings? >> what we need to do get high pressure economy going again. we need to get back to full employment. david: i think you're right on that. >> what did you say, sorry? david: i think you're right on that. >> clearly one way to do that keep interest rates low.
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we took a big hit in 2008. taking us a long way to get there. back in 2015 we've seen the biggest middle class income growth on record. part of that is fed policy. david: okay. >> we need to bring americans back to work. david: what we need to do is go on. melissa. melissa: hillary clinton taking first shot at donald trump attacking his tax plan. >> kind of plan donald put forth would be trickle-down economics again. it would be the most extreme version, the biggest tax cut for the toppers of the people in this country than we ever had. i call it trumped up trickle down because that is exactly what it would be. that is not how we grow the economy. melissa: dan, she worked so hard on that line and she tripped over it. >> yeah. melissa: she obviously practiced it in the mirror so many times and she could barely get it out. that is not how we wray to get the economy to grow. she said loosening the reins of government holding back everything that making our
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economy charge forward. what do you think? >> all sound kind of familiar. trickle-down economics is one of the oldest left-wing boilerplates out there, the idea that tax cuts never work. you know there was a very interesting example of trickle-down economics here in the last three years. and that was in 1997, when somebody called president bill clinton cut the capital gains rate from 28% to 20%. setting off a boom in venture-capital and four years of growth that averaged 4.2%. boy, wouldn't we like to get that to that era of trickle-down economics. melissa: in fact, brendan, she actually would. she brought up dan's exact point. she said, boy the economy was pretty good when my husband was running it which is exactly what dan henninger just said when he lowered that tax rate, so she contradicted her own estimate. >> we're mixing up correlation here. 1993, we raised taxes on very
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rich. what happened was that booming economy. what you need to do is examine the data. it shows there is no relationship between tax cuts and economic growth. i mean really if we think about trickle-down economics, back in 2001, the heritage foundation, which is an organization that dan's newspaper likes to cite a lot, they said the bush tax cuts would mean that there would be no federal debt by 2010. that certainly didn't happen, did it. melissa: because no one cut spending. the only way to cut the deficit and debt is to cut spending. you can't just play with the tax side. you have to do both sides of the equation. >> sure, but the heritage foundation predicted that the tax cut alone would cause the federal debt to disappear. that is problem there. that we have -- melissa: actually no way that is true. david: move on to trade. because donald trump was ripping into nafta last night, forcing hillary clinton to answer for her husband's plan. take a listen. >> your husband signed nafta which is one of the worst things that ever happened.
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>> that have you opinion. that is your opinion. >> you go to new england, go to ohio, pennsylvania, you go anywhere you want, secretary clinton, you will see devastation where manufacturing is down, 30, 40, sometimes 50%. nafta is the worst trade deal maybe ever signed anywhere. david: dan he also said nafta made it easier to move jobs to mexico. it did make it easier to move jobs to mexico, but, it also made stuff that is made in mexico very cheap for people in the united states. so which wins? >> well, i think there are, i think more winners than losers from nafta. this subject of trade may come back to haunt donald trump if he keeps pushing it as hard as he does. one of the things nafta did was allow automakers in michigan and auto parts-makers to move marginal operations down to mexico, which in turn let them survive in the united states and compete with the japanese and the south koreans. and that sort of situation is
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played out over and over again with these trade relationships. so i think by pushing nafta so hard, people start taking a closer look at it, donald trump is going to find it increasingly difficult to defend that point of view. david: okay. another trade deal of course, brendan, is the tpp. trans-pacific trade deal. donald trump said last night, last night he said to hillary, you supported it. we went up in her book and she kind of denied she did. she does say tpp became the signature economic pillar of our strategy in asia. she went on to describe it as the gold standard of trade deals. how does she back away from it. >> that was before they finished the deal. if we're talking about flip-flops, donald trump is the king of that. david: how does she answer for tpp because she called it the gold standard. that is true. >> before they finish it thousand. you're picking and choosing. david: she is picking deal she had majority of work on. >> she didn't --
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david: did she object to it after all the extra changes were made? i don't think so. >> i wasn't there, but hillary clinton laid out vision for getting trade to work for all americans, not just wealthy. david: brendan, dan, thank you for joining us. very interesting debate. last night. melissa. melissa: postdebate numbers. donald trump raised 13 million in online donations the past 24 hours. david: good for something. isis is dead set using chemical weapons changing the face of war in iraq. here at home donald trump is slamming hillary clinton for posting her plans to defight isis online. was that a good idea? lieutenant colonel oliver north will weigh in. >> it has been 24 hours since a third party candidate was on a presidential debate stage. libertarian nominee gary johnson is fighting for the chance at the next debate. what hopes to accomplish this
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and thoughts on last night's showdown. david: who came out on top last night? that is the big question today. depends who you ask. >> his demeanor, his temperment, his behavior on the stage could be seen by everybody. people can draw their own conclusions. anybody on the plane without a microphone is not having a good night. your actions, your money. it had me. it had me. i would not be a non-smoker today if it wasn't for chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse or of seizures. don't take chantix ous allergic or skin reaction to it. if you have these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have heart or blood vessel problems,
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biggest challenges facing the next president. >> as far as cyber i agree with what parts of secretary clinton said. we should be better than anybody else and perhaps they're not. melissa: that is opening if i ever saw one. this question about cybersecurity was opportunity for donald trump to dig into the hillary clinton private email issue. he failed to spring at this point. it wasn't only missed opportunity during the debate. ari fleischer, former white house press secretary for george w. bush joins me now. do you think a lot had to do with debate experience over time? it was a really long period of time to be sitting out there standing, battling back and forth? this is something she has done since law school. almost all lawyers are very good at debate stage thing. it is specific skill. he is not very experienced this? >> my guess he is counterpuncher. i will be ready what hill think lows at me. he doesn't go in with checklist. i will talk about the supreme court and immigration.
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if i hit with y, i raise with b. melissa: that makes a lot of sense. one of the points she made a lot of people didn't catch is this, it's a new phrase that will start rearing its head all over american society, this i implict bias idea. >> yes. melissa: like a disease your infected while you're sleeping and you don't even know it, wake up the next day and you have it. you're racist and don't even know it. it could happen to anyone. >> i caught it immediately. hillary says all americans are implicitly racist. i got massive reaction about people saying it. press missed it. that was very telling moment. just like her "deplorables" statement. melissa: like pc's start to infiltrate society. people bit toe what it was right away. this is something we'll be hearing a lot about. you have so much experience in this area. everyone has different impression what happened last night. i mean it is like the whole country watched different slices of debate, different pieces from
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a different perspective. >> yeah. melissa: everyone thinks they knew who won but no one around them necessarily agrees with that. is this usually like that or is this divisive election. >> no, it is usually like that. this is the twitter age. history shows no matter who you think wins or loses debates doesn't often correlate voters changing behavior. i'm for trump. he lost. i'm for hillary, i don't care what happened. i'm undecided, i'm still undecided. ultimately that is what happened last night. i think hillary beat him on points. she was cooler, calmer, more collected. he is hotter under the collar he needs to be. shed cool it down a few notches but i don't think the one debate yet moved any voters. melissa: i don't think it moved a single voter. i tweeted that everybody woke up hating opposite side more than they did last night. no one won a voter except for gary johnson who wasn't there. >> trump has to win college educated women. he has to tone it down a notch.
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he is so far behind with college educated women. mitt romney won 7. he is losing 16 to 19 if i recall. huge deaf at this time for him. he can't stay two three points behind this average of all polls. he has to start beating hillary in most of the polls. melissa: good stuff. david: thanks for the gary johnson tease. that is good, melissa. earnings alert, nike, world's largest maker of sportswear out with first quarter results. they beat. go back to lori rothman for the numbers. hi, lori. reporter: david it was top and bottom line beat. it wasn't enough to impress investors. shares sinking 3 1/2%. might be key shares were up nicely urge did the regular session, 2.7% to be exact. futures orders, a great survey and metric how business will perform obviously down the road in the future. so the analyst community was looking for futures orders around the world in excess of 8%. nike is only reporting future orders up 5%. even if you take out the foreign
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exchange calculation, futures orders are only up 7%. that is where the problem is. and the fundamental story with this sports shoe industry is that companies like adidas and under armour are killing it. i mean you've seen the adidas all-stars, kids in school. this is what all the kids are wearing these days. stan smith adidas shoes. nike struggling increasing competition. back to you. david: very interesting. beat so much on the top and bottom line but still end up down because of futures. appreciate it, lori. melissa. melissa: after much heated and anticipated debate last night candidates hit the trail. no rest for them. law and order remains a major issue of this campaign season as donald trump continues pushing his tough stance on crime and violence. marcia blackburn, republican representative from tennessee weighs in on that one next. >> is this a war-torn country? what are wee doing? we have to stop the violence. we have to bring back law and
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david: hillary clinton and donald trump battling over issues of law and order last night when hillary clinton made an unusual claim about crime in the u.s. take a listen. >> stop-and-frisk was found to be unconstitutional, and in part because it was ineffective. it did not do what it needed to do. in fact, violent crime is one-half of what it was in 1991. david: hillary clinton went on to say that crime is continuing to go down. this on the very day, yesterday, that the fbi released crime data showing the u.s. murder rate increasing by an astounding by 10.8% in 2015. republican representative from tennessee marcia blackburn
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joining us now with her take on all of this. congressman, nobody can look at the number fbi came out with and say crime is under control. 10.8% increase in the murder rate is huge? >> it is enormous. when you look at the fact there were well over 15,000 murders and well over 1500 additional last year, it just shows you this crime rate is going up. look at new york, look at chicago, look at baltimore, all of them, each city individually seen increase in the crime rate. david: right. >> you have to say why is that? maybe it is because you have a different approach that some of the cities are taking and they are not implementing stop-and-frisk. david: congressman, 2015 was the year that "black lives matter" and other movements began to really put handcuffs on the police stopping things like
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stop-and-frisk many people say did so much to bring the crime rate down to begin with. >> it did. look what happened in new york and in other cities where officers would move forward if there was reasonable founded concern, and they had some intel would help them on this they would make the approach and do that intervention david, that is what you need to keep the community safe. every time i talk to moms. this is one of the things that they here. i have friends that live around chicago. they are incredibly concerned about gang violence and how it is coming out of the city into the suburbs and they -- david: not just chicago. not just new york or big cities, milwaukee, baltimore, ferguson. these are small cities being affected. >> correct. david: lester holt, the moderator last night, tended to agree, he said it was true stop-and-frisk was declared unconstitutional. rudy giuliani who knows more about stop-and-frisk than anybody in the country, former
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prosecutor, mayor of new york disagreed and here is what he said last night to neil cavuto. >> right now tonight in america, 50 "stop-and-frisks are going on and they're all constitutional. lester holt's statement was completely ignorant and completely uncalled for. and he shouldn't get involved in a legal issue. he doesn't know a darn thing about. david: if you're going to do fact-checking as moderator you better make sure you get it right. >> well, david, i would encourage all of your viewers put terry versus ohio in their search engine. and pull up that decision in that case. you see that stop-and-frisk is legal. what we do know is that a lower court, federal judge, in new york, ruled against stop-and-frisk. he was removed from that case. david: yeah. >> case went in on appeal. the current mayor of new york decided he was not going to follow through with the appeal. david: doesn't like stop-and-frisk. >> stop-and-frisk is counts constitutional.
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and it produces the results that new york city saw and bringing that murder rate down, to get the murder rate down in this country. david: good argument could be made that thousands of black lives are alive today because of stop and frisk. that is up for another day. marcia blackburn. thanks for joining us. melissa. melissa: shares of nike dropping down after hours 4% even though the world's largest sportswear maker post ad solid beat on first quarter on the top and bottom line. future orders came in much weaker-than-expected. always look ahead. david: that's true. third party fight. gary johnson falling short of making the debate stage between clinton and trump, says he has very different vision for the u.s. not on display. the libertarian nominee will sound off right here coming up. melissa: plus, get-out-of-jail-free card. why some critics think hillary clinton left the debate unscathed. >> they were leaving all of her
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little goodies about. they didn't ask her about her emails at all. he didn't ask her about her scandals. didn't ask her about the benghazi deal that she destroyed. he didn't ask her about a lot of things that she should have been asked about.
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hi, peter. reporter: david, candidates trying to get momentum the day after the debate. that old big mo trying to get that going. no surprise on the postdebate comment. played up their own performances and played down the others. president obama joining in as the surrogate in chief, doing radio interview today. no surprise he praised clinton as the most qualified candidate to succeed him and hammered trump lacking right temperament. candidates traveling to keep battleground states themselves for the rest of this week. clinton spoke at an event in north carolina today. >> i'm going to leave it to the fact-checkers to go through all of, all of donald trump's claims. theres were a lot of work for fact-checkers last night. [laughter] reporter: trump down in florida as you mentioned. he has three events there today. he said at one of them earlier today that the instant polls showed him winning last night. clinton will be in new hampshire tomorrow where she will appear with bernie sanders to talk about higher education and
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student debt. she goes on to iowa and florida later this week. trump goes to illinois, iowa, wisconsin, new hampshire and missouri this week. david? david: busy week. peter, thank you very much. melissa. melissa: check out shares of temper seeley the mattress company getting hammered down 24% after the ceo warned third quarter net sales are below prior he can tech stations. expects net sales for the full year to be down one to 3% compared to 2015. no one is sleeping apparently. that is the problem. free pass at the debate. moderator lester holt under fire for not asking hillary clinton tough questions. the rnc issuing a list of absent topics including clinton foundation play to play allegations, benghazi attack, her "deplorables" comment. here is tony sayegh, jamestown associate vp. also fox news contributor. mustafa tamiz, democratic strategist.
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tony, what do you think of all that? >> look, all glaring omissions but with respect, melissa, journalistic malpractices especially lynn take the clinton found daigh and server issue. we have information coming out this week, new information about cheryl mills, hillary clinton's top attorney receiving immunity, four others receiving immunity and allegedly still not having committed a crime yet they had to go that route. we learned from i.t. staffer from hillary clinton they had automatic deletion program he himself called a hillary cover-up operation. we're learning more and more about big foreign donations to the clinton foundation. sighing direct correlation with meetings being gained by the actors and hillary clinton herself. these are important policy issues that needed to become part of first debate which everybody understood would be the most watched and opening salvo jo muse safa, people had the. melissa: mustafa, people had opposite complaints about
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commander-in-chief forum. that was nbc commentator. you have to wonder maybe matt lauer wept so hard at emails that maybe this time lester holt decided to stay away from it, what do you think? >> not at all. it was donald trump's job to bring things up at the debate. he was so unprepared. he bragged he was not prepared for this. he had two minutes. answered the question and used rest of his time to actually bring those attacks like hillary clinton did. melissa: you agree he should have been prepped on those issues, mustafa? you agree it wasn't sense to be pressed on those things? that isn't your point. >> he brought up email issue. and lester holt pressed her on the issue. melissa: i never heard legster holt press her. >> donald trump brought on and lester holt pressed her on email issue. if donald trump is not preparing for debate watched by 100 million people, it shows you
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he is not prepared to be president of the united states. >> lester holt proactively brought up donald trump's tax returns, his position on the iraq war as a private citizen, and he also pushed back on the whole "birther" issue. and not only did he ask the question, he pressed donald trump on follow-ups to threshissues pale in comparison to what we're learning on a regular basis. you're right these issues were largely covered in commander-in-chief forum. new information commanded it be a topic of conversation. benghazi is another one. melissa: mustafa, the points only brings up, those are fair questions. it is fair to go after "birther" issue and fair to ask him about the tax return thing, if you have to balance debate pair that on the other side questions that match about her issues about the foundation, email, all of those things, no? >> well look, i mean donald trump went off script, interrupted number of types.
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melissa: can you address the question i just said. does he have to pair to balance it? >> i am. because he overstepped his time. if you look how much time donald trump got versus how much time hillary clinton got he over extended his time. so even if lester holt had more questions for her, donald trump got more airtime and he misused it. and so his -- melissa: that's true. >> lack of preparation what got him in trouble. he can't blame other people -- melissa: i don't know if it is lack of preparation or he needed to be quiet at some point and stop. anyway. leave it there, guys. thank you, david. david: we got two more debates to come. meanwhile, absent from the debate but not from voters mind, libertarian nominee governor gary johnson falling short of 15% polling threshold requed to me ito thpresenti dete sge. t ththirpartcandate d noive to incded in t debes. gary johnson with me now. great to see you.
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trump usually does better in four-way race, than two-way race with just hillary. meaning to most people, that you are pulling away from hillary, and hillary support. why do you think that is? >> actually when they poll the four-way thing, stein takes it all from hillary. so that is really, really -- david: more stein. you don't have any effective polling from either candidate? that is the whole notion of being fiscally conservative, socially inclusive. skeptical when it comes to military interventions and free traders. david: yeah. lester holt we were talking about him with melissa, you gave him some questions that you thought should be asked of the participants last night. what do you think he should have asked that he didn't ask? >> well, neither of them talked about the debt. 20 trillion-dollar debt. nothing was addressed when it came to medicaid, medicare, social security.
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i don't think it is an option not to do anything in those areas. donald trump talks about increasing spending for the military. look, we're spending as much on our military as the rest of the world combined and look, no compromise when it comes to an invincible national defense but when we go in and support regime change, the unintended consequences is what we've got right now in syria. david: finally, infrastructure. both candidates want to spend billions of our tax dollars on the country's infrastructure. a lot is falling apart. bridges, roads, et cetera. i assume you would like to fix that, but not necessarily taxpayers money. how would you do it? >> now is the time to be borrowing when it comes to infrastructure, and based on my having served as governor of new mexico for eight years, i will tell you that a lot of the money that we pay at the pump for infrastructure doesn't go to infrastructure. so, federal government, i would
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love to bury myself in those beans and find out how much money is actually being contributed at the gas pump that isn't going to infrastructure, that is going into the general fund. same phenomenon i think exists at federal level. david: by the way, any chance at all that you will make it to one of the next debates? >> based on my takeaway from last night, which is i am the best candidate for president of the united states, david, i hope so. david: gary johnson. good to see you. thank you for being here. melissa. melissa: dead set on using chemical weapons. the newest threat from isis as donald trump and hillary clinton clash over the best way to defeat the terrorist group next. lieutenant colonel oliver north is here to respond. >> well, at least i have a plan to fight isis. >> no, no, you're telling the enemy everything we want to do. >> no we're not. no we're not. >> you're telling enemy everything we want to do, no wonder you've been fighting isis
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>> i have put forth a plan to defeat isis. it does involve going after them online. but we also have to intensify our airstrikes against isis. >> i think we have to get nato to go into the middle east with us in addition to surrounding nations and we have to knock the hell out of isis. david: whatever the next president does against isis, he or she may have ad adapt the deal with more complex element. pentagon says isis is dead set using chemical weapons as they fight back against our troops and iraqi forces trying to root them out. retired lieutenant colonel oral north, host of war stories. you have reported that there are signs already of isis using
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chemical weapons against kurdish fighters, correct? >> yes, we did, david. last november, when we were out lear, there were clear indications from the kurds, the peshmerga, that they had been hit with chemical weapons. you could see the burns on the bodies, reactions that would be normal for mustard gas. i'm astounded we'll finally send 50,000 chemical weapons protective equipment out there to them. but that will slow things down. i wonder if anybody really remembers the red line that obama you drew with that pink crayon in the and saying, it will be terrible if, there will be consequences, right? isis is undoubtedly using precursor elements from captured syrian and or iraqi chemical munitions stockpiles. that is what is happening right now. there ought to be a great deal of concern about it. david: talk about what each candidate has planned for isis. hillary talking about their plans to hit them over the internet. donald trump is not saying a lot
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what he would specifically do to combat isis. which of these candidates gives you more hope or more fear? >> david, i have just spent the last several days out here with folks who really do know how to handle terrorism. we're in israel. i'm coming to you from jerusalem right now. we've been up north by golan heights and down south on the gaza border. everyone here says, what they need to do, whoever commander-in-chief, make this pledge i will stop the jihad. the next commander-in-chief will lead western leaders in a no jihadi safe haven program where people like al-baghdadi can not butcher christians and spew propraganda. don't hold a press conference and shop pictures of potus and his pals wringing their hands in the set room. number three, forge a sunni cured force, using egyptians,
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united arab emirates with u.s. special operations advisors and fire support to end the syrian civil war. stay there long enough to keep the peace. number four, cancel the iranian nuke deal, and break the perception that the united states government is joined at the hip with the ayatollahs in iran. david: that rules out hillary, i will hadry of course is a big supporter of the iranian deal. talk about trump, very quickly, colonel. we have only one, couple of seconds. you don't want to telegraph specifically what you would do but shouldn't we have some who are specific information from donald trump what he would do, quickly. >> here is campaign advice. keep getting in the open. try enemy combatants in military tribunals. stop unvetted refugees coming into the united states and start public diplomacy program we did with the soviet union with solidarity. do those kind of things, you're not giving away anything. david: lieutenant colonel oliver north. great to see you. don't forget, catch oliver
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thwart's "war stories" on fox business. tune in this sunday 8:00 p.m. eastern. there is always time for that. melissa: actions speaking louder than words. we're breaking down the body language between donald trump and hillary clinton. the candidates messages that were left unsaid. >> i think as the de he seemed, you know, not himself. he you know, with the sniffling and the gulping the water, he seemed to have a terrible debate performance. he seemed at the end accused her of lacking stamina, he seemed to really run out of gas. there's a denture adhesive that holds strong until evening.
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melissa: war of words. hillary clinton and donald trump exchanging jabs at the first presidential debate. their body language spoke even louder. here to decode candidates
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gestures, body language expert chris oelrich. thanks for joining us. one stuck out the most, people meming. shimmy. i can't even do it right. we'll see it here. she even put out a little tweet with it in there. anytime she was attacked, i notice it was almost like she was shaking off the attack? she actually did it also in her debate with president obama when he said, you're likeable enough. oh, that makes me feel so much better. what is that? >> it is also called a wiggle. we'll see people do this as a way, melissa, to shake off stress, if they're feeling it. it's, when we're being attacked or being pressed or under anxious moment what we'll see from people sometimes we get bound, we get really tight. that reflects in our bodies. when she does the shimmy or wiggle, literally breaking off the tension. we also will say, jokingly we'll say, if you can't giggle it off, wiggle it off.
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that is basically what she is doing in the clip. melissa: what about the forced, semipsychotic smile? it is kind of frightening? i'm happy, i'm having a great time or i'm-likeable, what was that? >> well a lot of times it is meant, i think, the effort was aimed at for her, a lot of times when she is on the end of an attack, she is getting ready, has very serious look on her face, almost like a you scowl. it is meant to soften. we saw joe biden do it in the debate with congressman ryan. he would laugh it off when the attack came. it speaks to likability. it appeared to be genuine at times because we don't see the bottom teeth and corners of mouth came up and crow's feet of the eyes. that can be read as genuine smile. it is way of saying you will not get to me. you won't pressure me. melissa: was it effective? >> i think at times of the ngers si, atimeshe he themile whenhe d thait wld
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derme ithaveeopl wonding it thenc oroo much. melissa: i don't want to run out of time without being mean to donald trump as well. what about the sniffle? there was crouch forward. normally he was tall, broad and open in past debates. in this one he was sniffling and crouched forward. what do you make of those. >> excellent observations. sniffle, if he had a cold he could have shared that with us. made it a non-fact, by not addressing it, constant sniffling off mic, it is distraction. gets in way of his message or when she is speaking, it become as twitter sensation. the same thing with his crouch. he is imploding. getting smaller in his body language. that anger, he took every hook she through him in terms of baiting him. we see the anger. he should have wig i will abouted. wiggled her off too. that would have blown their minds. melissa: we'll be watchingro how did we get down to these
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two, right? chris, you were fantastic. bring you back next time. we appreciate it. >> i hope so. david: great segment. melissa: he was very good. broke it down. 330 million people and these are two left. david: reports coming out hillary clinton's book stronger together. these reports didn't stop her from promoting book last night. >> you have no plan. david: i have a book about it. stronger together. you can pick it up at a bookstore or airport near you. i had so many thoughts once i left the hospital after a dvt blood clot. what about my wife... ...what we're building together... ...and could this happen again? i was given warfarin in the hospital, but wondered, t eliquis. eliquis treats dvt and pe blood clots and reduces the risk of them happening again. not only does eliquis treat dvt and pe blood clots. but eliquis also had significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatment.
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>> so after a heated debate last night, new reports say amazon fixed the reviews for hillary clinton's book "stronger together." amazon was reportedly removing the negative reviews from its website. >> unbelievable. the book she wrote with tim kaine sold just under 3,000 copies in first week on the shelves.
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and the ratings are bad. book currently has 1.4 stars out of 5 on amazon. get this, $14 million she got as an advance for this. 14 million! it will never get anywhere near that. >> unbelievable. "risk & reward" starts right now.. >> so he has a long record of engaging in racist behavior. he has really started his political activity based on this racist lie that our first black president was not an american citizen. this is a man who has called women pigs, slobs and dogs, and someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers. >> i never said that. >> that women don't deserve equal pay unless they do as good a job as men.

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